{"id":50573,"date":"2022-08-10T15:32:30","date_gmt":"2022-08-10T22:32:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/?p=50573"},"modified":"2023-04-13T13:54:25","modified_gmt":"2023-04-13T20:54:25","slug":"just-saying-mar-a-lago-boxes-and-the-navys-top-secrets-in-bank-lockbox-in-2010-for-18-months-ooops","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/?p=50573","title":{"rendered":"JUST SAYING:  Mar-a-Lago Boxes, and the Navy&#8217;s Top Secrets in Bank Lockbox in 2010 for 18 Months \u2014 Ooops"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 24px;\">JUST SAYING<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 24px;\">BY RAUL HERNANDEZ<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-21181 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Trump-Make-America-Great-Again-237x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"237\" height=\"300\" \/>The FBI executed search warrants on Donald Trump&#8217;s Mar-a-Lago this week and walked away with more than a dozen boxes of classified documents.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">As this story flooded the airwaves, I recalled the time I had front-row seats in the mishandling of Secret and Top Secret documents by the U.S. Navy in California.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">The Navy&#8217;s Top Secrets ended up in a lockbox in Ventura, California, and were there for 18 months after they were accidentally sent to a lawyer.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_15696\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-15696\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-15696 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Jack-Futoran-ll1-e1442607306239-300x272.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"272\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Jack-Futoran-ll1-e1442607306239-300x272.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Jack-Futoran-ll1-e1442607306239-1024x928.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Jack-Futoran-ll1-e1442607306239.jpg 1529w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-15696\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">2010 Photo of Jack Futoran<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">That was in 2010. And I was working as a newspaper reporter with the Ventura County Star.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">A source, Ventura Attorney Jack Futoran, called. He asked if I was interested in a story about how he accidentally got classified documents from the Navy, including a list of Social Security numbers, employees&#8217; names, and other personal, identifying information.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Jack said the letter arrived in a package\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">at his office in Ventura.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">A package from the Navy contained the investigative report he had requested about his client Gary Biggers, a then federal security manager.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">But to his surprise, some photocopied documents were marked &#8220;Top Secret&#8221; and &#8220;Secret.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">&#8220;These people deal with some extremely sensitive stuff,&#8221; Futoran said in 2010. &#8220;I immediately closed that (document),&#8221; and he told his client Gary Biggers, &#8220;You can&#8217;t have this. I can&#8217;t have this.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1726358.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-50574 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1726358-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1726358-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1726358-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1726358-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1726358-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1726358.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Accused of not following Navy rules, Biggers, of Ventura, was suspended as a Security Manager for the Naval Facilities Engineering Service Center at Port Hueneme in 2008 after ten months on the job, according to Futoran.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Biggers was put on administrative leave without pay.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Those moves upset Biggers, who told his superiors it was unfair to blame him for violations that had existed &#8220;for years.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Biggers said in an interview that he was being made a scapegoat for what he conceded were serious security violations and a &#8220;horrible mess.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-15719 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Navy-Logo.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Navy-Logo.png 300w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Navy-Logo-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>An official 2008 Navy report related to his case became public, revealing a list of security lapses that the report&#8217;s author called &#8220;lax&#8221; and &#8220;dangerous.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The unclassified report strongly recommended that at least three employees, including Biggers, be stripped of their security clearances.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3717 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/U.S.-Navy-Submarine-300x203.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"203\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/U.S.-Navy-Submarine-300x203.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/U.S.-Navy-Submarine-90x60.jpg 90w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/U.S.-Navy-Submarine-95x64.jpg 95w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/U.S.-Navy-Submarine.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>In an interview in 2010, Biggers said security violations occurred there for years, long before he was given the job of security manager in 2007 after a brief training period.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">&#8220;I was dumbfounded when they accused me of this,&#8221; he said. &#8220;No one can correct 20 years of neglect in eight months.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Futoran said he immediately called Navy officials to pick up the classified material accidentally sent to his office.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1986420.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-50575 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1986420-300x195.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1986420-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1986420-1024x666.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1986420-768x499.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1986420.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>But for 18 months, despite letters and calls, nobody showed up to get them, he said in 2010.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Sadly, Biggers had to rent a safe deposit box at a Ventura bank for $75 a year to store the documents, according to Futoran.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">After I started asking questions, the Navy became tight-lipped. The no comments soon rained down. I later wrote about this in my 2015 column, Just Saying, published on my website: www.cjnotebook.com.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-50576 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/download-29-300x149.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"149\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/download-29-300x149.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/download-29.jpg 318w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>Five years after the Navy&#8217;s screwup, Hillary Clinton was accused of mishandling her emails. Those allegations were proven to be untrue. In addition, in 2015, Chinese hackers stole the names of 22 million employees, Social Security numbers, and other personal information from federal computers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In 2010, the Navy 2010 never said a word about the classified document &#8220;accident&#8221; and why classified documents stayed in a Ventura bank for 18 months.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">&#8220;I am not commenting on any of it,&#8221; Darrell Waller, spokesman for the engineering center, had said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I wrote that Waller cited ongoing litigation and personnel issues as reasons for not commenting on the report or the secrets or employee list.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">But before The Star published the story in 2010, Navy security officials showed up at the newsroom.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">They politely asked to talk to the\u00a0<strong>Ventura County Star<\/strong>\u00a0editors, the managers, and myself. They were very concerned about whether we had copies of Navy classified information.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><strong>To Read 2010 Story in the Ventura County Star Click Here:\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.vcstar.com\/news\/employee-says-he-got-little-training-in-security-ep-369649953-350091551.html\/\">Ventura County Star<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">No, I said with a smile.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">They were polite.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I asked why they didn&#8217;t pick up the classified information and list when Jack Futoran called the base right after he got the package.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">No comment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Why were the Navy&#8217;s classified documents in a security box in a Ventura bank for 18 months? What about Biggers allegations that this mishandling of Top Secrets and Secrets had existed &#8220;for years&#8221;?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">No comment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">What about Navy security training on the base?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">No comment.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I asked a few more questions. No comment, citing, again, the ongoing investigation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The less they spoke, the more my built-in B.S. detector that served me well for three decades as a newspaper reporter went haywire. I knew the boys operating America&#8217;s nuclear aircraft carriers, and submarines were in CYA mode but did appear to be very concerned.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This week at Mar-a-Lago, the FBI seized more boxes with classified documents that Trump took home.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The feds are saying very little. Trump is furious, calling the incident a &#8220;raid&#8221; at his home.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/hiliarys-emails-navy-classified-information-and-jacks-jaw-dropping-package\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>JUST SAYING BY RAUL HERNANDEZ The FBI executed search warrants on Donald Trump&#8217;s Mar-a-Lago this week and walked away with more than a dozen boxes of classified documents.\u00a0 As this story flooded&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":28029,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50573","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-notes-cases-thoughts-quotes"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>JUST SAYING: Mar-a-Lago Boxes, and the Navy&#039;s Top Secrets in Bank Lockbox in 2010 for 18 Months \u2014 Ooops<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"JUST SAYING BY RAUL HERNANDEZ The FBI executed search warrants on Donald Trump&#039;s Mar-a-Lago this week and walked away with more than a dozen boxes of\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/?p=50573\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"JUST SAYING: Mar-a-Lago Boxes, and the Navy&#039;s Top Secrets in Bank Lockbox in 2010 for 18 Months \u2014 Ooops\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"JUST SAYING BY RAUL HERNANDEZ The FBI executed search warrants on Donald Trump&#039;s Mar-a-Lago this week and walked away with more than a dozen boxes of\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/?p=50573\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"American Justice Notebook\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AmericanJusticeNotebook\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2022-08-10T22:32:30+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2023-04-13T20:54:25+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/cjnotebook.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/News.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"2000\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"1000\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Raul\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Raul\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"4 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/cjnotebook.com\\\/?p=50573#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/cjnotebook.com\\\/?p=50573\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Raul\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/cjnotebook.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/f5521baddca77b521f012298775186c0\"},\"headline\":\"JUST SAYING: Mar-a-Lago Boxes, and the Navy&#8217;s Top Secrets in Bank Lockbox in 2010 for 18 Months \u2014 Ooops\",\"datePublished\":\"2022-08-10T22:32:30+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2023-04-13T20:54:25+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/cjnotebook.com\\\/?p=50573\"},\"wordCount\":861,\"commentCount\":0,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/cjnotebook.com\\\/#organization\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/cjnotebook.com\\\/?p=50573#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/cjnotebook.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2016\\\/11\\\/News.jpg\",\"articleSection\":[\"Notes - Cases - Thoughts &amp; 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